Hoe herken ik mijn Condor legerfiets

 
How to recognize a Condor MO-05

Condor

 
Gewicht 22.5 kilo
Lengte 1820 mm
Breedte 565 mm
Hoogte 1020 mm
Afstand wielassen 1140 mm +/- 10 mm
Zitplaatsen 1 persoon
Achterwielaandrijving Ketting, geen versnellingen
Remmen voor: bandrem met hevel en remblok
achter: terugtraprem (tornado?)
achter na 1944: extra trommelrem.
Bouwjaren 1905 - 1988
Aantal ca. 50.000
Producent Condor SA, Courfaivre
Uitrusting Slot, U vormig, merk Cosmos.
Koplamp (Messing) en dynamo combi aan linker vorkpoot.
Achterlicht met plaat?houder van Aluminium
Tas met gereedschap onder zadelpen
Documenten tas met zijtas aan de stang.
Fietspomp met slang en kantelhandvat, geklemd aan frame
Bagagedrager (niet altijd)
Kentekenplaat onder zadel van aluminium.
Leren zadel (Armee met getordeerde veren)
Bel van zwart gespoten messing
Spatlap op voorspatbord (leer of rubber)

 
Pictures: Thomas Möller 
Om te weten te komen of jouw fiets een Condor is moet je naar kleine detail gaan zoeken. De meeste onderdelen zijn door Condor gestempeld met een C in een cirkel. Hierboven staat een foto van de trapperas. Op de ring lingsboven en uitvergroot hieronder ziet u duidelijk de C.

You have to look for the small details. In most parts made by Condor you can find a small stamp. A C in a cirkel.

Thomas Möller send the Condorclub Holland this fine letter. 
You ask one of the most difficult questions and the answer is as follows you dont know what it is unless you take the whole thing appart and look at all the markings and see which occur the most from that you can then deduct that its one or the other make.

The picture of your 1951 bike shows quite clearly that it has a Condor front fork and the front sprocket is also a Condor sprocket so I would safely say that it is a Condor . 

You should also have have a C in a circle stamped in the middle of the front wheel hub then to go further almost all the parts are stamped in the same way plus the year that it was manufactured in your case it should be 51 this goes for things like the bearing cones, axels saddle and pedals but not nuts and bolts. Of course parts that were replaced over the years do not have the same dates anymore but it makes it interisting to try to find them. 

The rear wheel hub should also have the date on it and generaly it corresponds to the frame, the one on your bike is a later model and they dont all have dates anymore. All the hubs used were Torpedo from Fichtel and Sachs and they were manufactured from 1904 to the late 1980s and this seems to be one of the reasons why the MO 05 .

These bicycles were also as Rad and not velo, there is also a difference between a Radfahrer Rad and the Truppenfahrrad or Zeughausrad 

The Radfahrer Rad had never a carrier and the small green numberplate, they only used special carriers for amunition, antitank weapons, light machineguns and the troop mechanic one can also tell these appart from the others by the number on the red numberplate that is or should be on the rear light this number should be1001. The other numbers were used by the rest of the troops and the adminstration so all the cycles that have the green numberplate and carrier were for general use and are still used today. 

The tool bag under the seat should also have the frame number on it unless it was replaced at some stage. I have a drawing of the different sprockets that I can fax to you with a few other details. 

One other thing is that carbide lights were fitted till the thirties, they were made by Rieman till + -1910 and after that they were made by Decker in Neuchatel ,these were also numbered and stamped with the Swiss +. 

The dynamo lights were fitted to the general use cycles in the fifties already but to the Radfahrerrad only in about the mid eighties and almost all of them are the newer models .


 
Condor spanner / steeksleutel
Pictures: Thomas Möller

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Collecting this information took me a long time and a lot of energy. When you want to use some, please ask. Always place the name and link of the Condorclub Holland.